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Обсуждение задачи 1475. Курочка-Ряба

I long time try, and found this formula:
Послано xurshid_n 17 авг 2012 19:57
4*h *  n ( n + 1 )  > H
minimal  n - is answer!

but I doubt, that this is correct.

It's correct or not?
Re: I long time try, and found this formula:
Послано Shen Yang 12 окт 2017 06:23
v0*t*sin(theta)+0.5*g*sin(theta)*t^2 *n>=sqrt(H*H+l*l)

v0=sqrt(2*g*h)

t=2*v0/g

tan(theta)=H/l.

seems to be correct

PS. this problem is too simple..

Edited by author 12.10.2017 06:25

Edited by author 12.10.2017 06:40
Re: I long time try, and found this formula:
Послано Shen Yang 12 окт 2017 07:50
the correct formula is

4*h*n*(n+1)>(H*H+l*l)/H
Re: I long time try, and found this formula:
Послано Mahilewets Nikita [BSUIR] 13 окт 2017 00:29
Maybe provide some explanation
Re: I long time try, and found this formula:
Послано Mahilewets Nikita [BSUIR] 13 окт 2017 00:30
Oh
Your previous comment is the explanation
Re: I long time try, and found this formula:
Послано Felix_Mate 5 авг 2018 12:45
Let O=(l,H), A=(0,0), B=(l,0). System of coordinates: OX=AO, OY =  BO rotate on teta (teta=arctan(H/l)).
Then:

vx(t) = (v+gt)*sin(teta)
vy(t) = (v-gt)*cos(teta)

x(t) = V*sin(teta)+g*sin(teta)*(t^2)/2
y(t) = V*cos(teta)-g*cos(teta)*(t^2)/2

First point: (l, H) => x=0, y=0
Second point: y(t)=0 <=> t=2*v/g
              x(2*v/g) = 4*(V^2)*sin(teta)/g = d = 8 * h * sin(teta) (mg(H+h)=mgH+m*(V^2)/2)
              x = d, y = 0

Distance between First point and Second point = d
Distance between Second point and Third point = 2*d
...
Distance between i point and i+1 point = i*d

If n = answer => d+2d+3d+...+(n-1)d<=sqrt(H^2 + l^2)
                 d+2d+3d+...+(n-1)d+nd>sqrt(H^2 + l^2)

Edited by author 05.08.2018 12:52