ENG  RUSTimus Online Judge
Online Judge
Задачи
Авторы
Соревнования
О системе
Часто задаваемые вопросы
Новости сайта
Форум
Ссылки
Архив задач
Отправить на проверку
Состояние проверки
Руководство
Регистрация
Исправить данные
Рейтинг авторов
Текущее соревнование
Расписание
Прошедшие соревнования
Правила
вернуться в форум

Общий форум

GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Vladimir Yakovlev (USU) 22 фев 2009 15:49
You can no longer keep your solutions. You will always be able to download them directly from our site. See details on the frequently asked questions page.
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Vedernikoff Sergey (HSE: EconomicsForever!) 22 фев 2009 16:22
Wow, that's really GREAT! At last! Thank you!!!
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Yurchuk Maxim, Rybinsk, Liceum #2 22 фев 2009 18:59
very good=) thanks!
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 23 фев 2009 00:50
Actually bad news. Many people have been chosen passwords for timus considering that nothing really useful can be done if someone will get their password.

Now game rules have changed. It is now possible to exploit other's weak passwords.

Any ideas how to close this hole?
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 24 фев 2009 14:38
I suggest to limit number of problems solutions to which can be downloaded during some period of time.

For example, allow to get solutions for only one problem at any single day (any number of solutions to this problem may be downloaded). Needs to download own solutions are very occasional. So for any legal purpose it would be enough but this rule would be very limiting for getting all sources of another person.
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 24 фев 2009 15:07
I also suggest the following set of rules to increase security of dowdloading sources.

1. Complicate procedure of changing e-mail in personal settings:
 * when change of e-mail requested, letter with random confirmation code is sent to old e-mail.
 * actually change e-mail either on that code or without code but in one month from request.
2. For the first downloaded source of the day letter with random confirmation code is sent to e-mail. Getting source is possible only with this code. After this for one day it is possible to download sources without e-mail confirmation using only account password.
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Vedernikoff Sergey (HSE: EconomicsForever!) 24 фев 2009 15:26
I think, all this is superfluous, I'm too lazy even to enter my password every time before downloading my solutions. I think, if a man wants to secure his solutions, he should just to change password to more powerful...
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 24 фев 2009 15:44
Vedernikoff Sergey (HSE: EconomicsForever!) писал(a) 24 февраля 2009 15:26
I think, if a man wants to secure his solutions, he should just to change password to more powerful...

Yes, I've done it but there are more than 60000 acconts on Timus, and less than 0.1% of them read the forum.

It is more important for top-100 or top-1000 accounts. There are many of them with last AC year of two ago. They do not visit Timus now but their solutions are open for an attack.
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 24 фев 2009 15:51
Vedernikoff Sergey (HSE: EconomicsForever!) писал(a) 24 февраля 2009 15:26
I think, if a man wants to secure his solutions, he should just to change password to more powerful...

It is not a question of security of solutions of single man. It is a question of security of solutions of Top-100.

Now an easy way to get to the first page of Timus ranklist appeared.
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Vedernikoff Sergey (HSE: EconomicsForever!) 24 фев 2009 16:23
Then, to my mind, the better way of actions for admins is to automatically generate and apply strong passwords for TOP-100 - TOP-1000, and send them to authors via e-mail
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 24 фев 2009 16:49
Vedernikoff Sergey (HSE: EconomicsForever!) писал(a) 24 февраля 2009 16:23
the better way of actions for admins is to automatically generate and apply strong passwords for TOP-100 - TOP-1000, and send them to authors via e-mail

Good idea.

What about the following?
1. E-mail field in user information is optional. It is impossible to change password if e-mail is not set.
2. Some e-mail do not exist anymore. It is impossible for such user to get new password.

Edited by author 24.02.2009 16:57
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Fyodor Menshikov 24 фев 2009 18:51
Interesting that there is no penalty for discovering others' judge_ids and passwords.

There is section 272 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, but it is about "information protected by the law". I doubt that judge_ids and passwords fall into this definition (second link for more information).

Links to the section and comments (in Russian):
http://www.az-design.ru/Projects/AZLibrCD/Law/CrimnLaw/UKRF97/ukrf272.shtml
http://www.crime-research.ru/library/Belous3.htm
Re: GREAT NEWS! You can download your solutions now (+)
Послано Burunduk1 24 фев 2009 20:02
Great! =)

Thank you very much!
"My hard drive is broken, how can I restore my solutions?" - it is just about me =)

PS: 22-th of February is my birthday =)